Tuesday, January 12, 2010

LFG, or "Destroying Guilds?'

It used to be that guildies complained constantly about not getting groups for things. So much that you wanted to punt them. In the face. With a hammer.

Now, when I log on for my 10 minutes of horde a day, I'm lucky if I catch one person outside a pug and not afk.

I complained on our forums about feeling disconnected, so I logged on right after and asked if anyone wanted to run a bg. I thought making other people cry might improve my mood.

Since no one even bothered to speak to me (aside from an officer I was whispering), much less reply, I went in a bg alone, lost it, and logged out to get real world things done since logging in to "get to know people" requires waiting to catch them between their current pug and the next one they queue for.

Has anyone else found this to be an issue?


  1. It's been an issue for me recently. More for those with limited play schedules, I suspect. I almost never get to just talk to people unless it begins with one of us typing "/t NAME Got a minute?" Having existing relationships has definitely become more important in terms of keeping close to the social aspect of the game.

  2. Issues with connecting due to everyone being in PuGs? Not really. I only really log on now to check auctions I haven't posted because everytime I log in, the inevitible wailing for my services downstairs, right this God-Damned Minute, waft into my room. >.>

  3. Play a tank and grab the guildies who still have some wait time for an instant invite. :)

    Or use /g to bitch about how bad your pug is and how much the other 4 randoms suck and how much you hate all servers but yours because only retarded kids play on the other server. :)

  4. It's a lot of trouble at the moment, but I think it'll settle down soon.

    It's just that it's new. Everyone will calm down in a month or so.

  5. I have the opposite experience. The members of my raiding guild prefer to group together for heroics rather than play PuG roulette, so there is almost always someone using guild chat to look for a heroic group. We're talking and grouping together outside of raids more than we did before the advent of LFD. (Like Kring said, we also use it to bitch about bad PuGs -- like that ostensibly ret paladin in an eclectic collection of spellpower plate and tanking gear -- which is always a bonding experience. ;)

  6. Absolutely . . . it now takes some attention/effort to catch friends & guildies outside their PuGs. I've just kinda' resigned myself to asking if they want to group up when they're done and go do dailies until they're ready.

    Not that it's a tough thing to resign myself to . . . after all, when they log on, I'm likely to be in a PuG, too. :)

  7. I find it a mix of the two... I think it depends some on the people in your guild. I find, as healer, that I can always pick up a guildie or two by asking in chat if anyone needs the daily random. I have a few guildies that look at anything resembling pugging as the horror of ages... I might have to interact with someone I don't already know? If they do the daily random at all, it is with guildies.

    Yet, yes, I do know exactly what you mean. 10 people on, and no one wants to chat. To be honest, I can't chat in an instance except over vent, so I can't expect that from anyone else. It makes me sad, and it makes me hang out in vent more.

    Random social chatter no longer cements my social guild. Raids do. That's where the socializing happens, where idle banter takes place, where we act as a group.

    Is this a bad thing?

    Yes, probably. Anyone who doesn't raid doesn't get a chance to bond with the group as a whole. Anyone without a mic is missing half the socialization.

    But I like the lfg!

  8. I'm not interested in getting to know the people in my guild. At least, not as and end in itself. If I get to know them through running a raid or instance together, that's fine. I tend to keep to myself most of the time.

    Even though people are spending a lot of time in pugs, I still get asked to tank or heal. People seem to feel more comfortable in a run when they know the tank or healer already.

  9. I have found it to be an issue. I log on and find people are already busy in PUGs. So I queue up, and inevitably a guildie will ask for a dungeon when I'm already in one. They don't want to wait for you to get out so they move on.
    I'm in a new guild and trying to get to know people is proving to be difficult. But at least this is a raiding guild, so I do get to hang out with them in raids a couple times a week.

  10. Before anyone from my guild goes into the Dungeon finder, they ask in guild chat if anyone wants to go, and then they queue once in party. It's working well for all of us. :)


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